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Fleetwood Mac Album - Say You Will (Limited Edition)

Fleetwood Mac Album - Say You Will (Limited Edition) (Front side)
Album Information :
Customers rating: (43 ratings)
Release Date:2003-04-15
Type:Audio CD
Genre:Adult Contemporary, Album Rock, Pop, Pop/Rock, Pop/Rock Music, Popular Music, Rock, Rock/Pop
Label:Reprise / Wea
UPC:093624846727
Approx. Price:$29.98 (USD)
Track Listing :
1 - 1 . What's The World Coming To
1 - 2 . Murrow Turning Over In His Grave
1 - 3 . Illume (9/11)
1 - 4 . Thrown Down
1 - 5 . Miranda
1 - 6 . Red Rover
1 - 7 . Say You Will
1 - 8 . Peacekeeper
1 - 9 . Come
1 - 10 . Smile At You
1 - 11 . Running Through The Garden
1 - 12 . Silver Girl
1 - 13 . Steal Your Heart Away
1 - 14 . Bleed To Love Her
1 - 15 . Everybody Finds Out
1 - 16 . Destiny Rules
1 - 17 . Say Goodbye
1 - 18 . Goodbye Baby
2 - 1 . Not Make Believe (previously unreleased)
2 - 2 . Love Minus Zero/No Limit (Bob Dylan cover)
2 - 3 . Peacekeeper (live from AOL Sessions)
2 - 4 . Say You Will (live from AOL Sessions)
Description :
2003 album featuring both Stevie Nicks & Lindsey Buckingham, the first since 1987's triple-platinum Top 10 'Tango In The Night' & first release since 1997s 'The Dance'. The band also features John McVie & Mick Fleetwood plus guests artists, Sheryl Crow, Christine McVie, & Dave Palmer. This limited edition includes an exclusive bonus enhanced CD with four tracks, 'Love Minus Zero/No Limit', ' Not Make Believe', 'Peacekeeper' (live from AOL sessions), & 'Say You Will' (live from AOL sessions), along with behind the scenes footage, packaged in a digibook. Reprise.
Customer review - 2003-04-16
- This is why these guys are Legends!
Hard core fans are gonna want the enhanced CD. No two ways about it. The bonus disc has enhanced video footage to be played on your computer. But the really cool stuff are the 4 bonus songs on the bonus disc. Love Minus Zero/No Limit is a Bob Dylan tune. When have you ever heard Lindsay Buckingham sing Dylan! Wow. This band is great. They have played together so long, that the interaction is effortless. They are also playing better than ever. Lindsay is soaring on guitar through out the CDs. Why doesn't he get more credit as a guitar god? Not Make Believe is an extra Stevie Nicks song. Some of her better writing and singing are on this album. I suppose her working stint with Sheryl Crow has paid off well. It really shows that Stevie has been working on her craft. Lindsay also draws the best out of her. Live versions of Peacekeeper and Say You Will round out the bonus disc. They were taped for a live AOL Session on Feb. 28th, 2003. Mick Fleetwood & John McVie prove yet again why they are one of the tightest and most complementary rhythm sections in all of rock. With these guys behind you, anyone would sound good. The dynamic of the band is a bit different from the past. Christine McVie is no longer part of the band, so all the songwriting and vocals are shared by Stevie & Lindsay. It makes for a very groovy album, full of surprises and rich textures of mood and sound. It is kinda like the feel of Buckingham/Nicks, but done by much more mature artists. It certainly IS Fleetwood Mac. You kinda don't notice that Christine is gone. This 18 track album is fantastic. Not a dud on the album. Now of course I just got it and I am still living with it, but I really do enjoy it. Lindsay orchestrates guitar part upon guitar part, like a modern day Brian Wilson. Any fan of Stevie, Lindsay or Fleetwood Mac, would be sure to enjoy this album. And go ahead and shell out for the enhanced edition. You'll be glad you did.
Customer review - 2003-05-21
- It Grows on You
When I first reviewed the 1-disc version of this CD, I gave it 4 stars, docking it 1 star because I felt that some of Lindsey Buckingham's contributions were subpar. Ironically, that's the same reaction I had 24 years ago to the album "Tusk", which is now one of my all-time favorites. While some of Buckingham's experimental stuff here can be jarring at first listen (and I still say -- he's no master songwriter), his music certainly can't be described as cliche or run-of-the-mill. After a while, I found myself looking forward to some of the kookier effects and, quite honestly, some of these songs really do sink in over time. "Red Rover", though almost overwhelmed by the production, is actually a rather compelling song, the most moving of his contributions here. And "Miranda", which I disliked upon first listen, is now one of my favorite songs on the disc. Even "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" no longer affronts, and the urge to hit the skip button is gone. In fact, the two wildly varying styles of Buckingham / Nicks eventually compliment one another if you give "Say You Will" a chance. Stevie Nicks, of course, is the class act here, and she continues the personal renaissance she began on 1997's "The Dance". Her voice is no longer the unique instrument it once was (the harsh bleating now overwhelms its once quivering delicacy) but what she's lost in character she makes up for with a histrionic emotionalism that still connects with the material. And its her material here that is the crowning jewel. Buckingham has always been condescending in his assessment of Nicks' songwriting, but the truth of the matter is she is light years ahead of him, as any listen to this CD would prove. This time out, she holds the mysticism to a minimum ("Illume" and "Running Through the Garden" are the only examples), preferring instead a more direct, accessible approach that both expands on Nicks' style and fills in at times for the missing Christine McVie. "Say You Will", "Thrown Down" and "Destiny Rules" are three of the best songs she's ever written, filled to their brims with hooked-ladened ear candy. "Running Through..." and "Everybody Finds Out", on the other hand, are two of her best all out rockers in years, and her singing on these two songs has all the emotional urgency she's noted for. "Goodbye Baby" is the exquisite ballad that closes the first CD in hushed melancholy while "Illume", her reflection on 9/11, is actually the only fitting tribute I've heard because it doesn't directly, pedantically make cornball references to that day. Instead, Nicks comes up with one of her best recent lyrics in evoking universal longing and sadness. Here, her trademark mysticism is just what the doctor ordered. The extra CD on this expanded edition of "Say You Will" is a real treat, too. It's got two additional studio cuts, Buckinghams' quirky take on Dylan's "Live Minus Zero / No Limit" and Nicks' poppy "Not Make Believe". Here, she offers a rather pedestrian lyric, but the tune is another hook-filled delight that compliments the rest of her work on the CD. Better still are the two live versions of "Peacekeeper" and "Say You Will", both of which are superior to the studio versions because, although almost identical in execution, have the expected "oomph" Fleetwood Mac typically brings to their best live work. Credit there must also go to the phenominal rhythm section of McVie and Fleetwood. Thirty-five years later, they're still the rock solid base for this classic group. One minor gripe about the packaging: while very handsome indeed, its rather clumsily designed and will take delicacy of handling to survive the years. But the music inside? That will survive the years as a pinnacle in the legacy of one of the greatest groups of the last century. Never break the chain.
Customer review - 2003-04-17
- So much packed in this gem!
First of all the limited edition enhanced cd is amazing, a hard booklet with pages and pages of rare photos, lyrics, fold outs, and a collectible 11x14 poster of a darkroom contact of the band at Lindsey's house recording.

It's amazing to see these people getting older, so glad they are all still around, and to hear what they've come up with next.

As well, this cd is "enhanced" and when you put it in your computer it pulls up a special page with links to video footage of the band members working out songs, singing, playing, etc. You also get a bonus cd of bonus tracks. The limited edition is a must for any Mac fan who collects.

Now on to the music! I'm going to start at the very end of the cd with Stevie's song "Good-bye Baby". I have been a Stevie fan for many years and I don' think I've ever heard her voice sound more tender than on this song, she sings it as if she's singing a lullabye. I can almost see her quietly leaning in to be careful with her voice, delicate, not to blast someone out of the water with it's power or volume.

"What's the world coming to" is a young sounding Lindsey song. I never appreciate Lindsey's influence unless he's gone, he's easy to take for granted. This song is catchy and full of life.

On "Murrow turning over in his grave" Lindsey uses his engineering genius. The vocals and guitars on this are very layered and complex. I mostly like how he does the background vocals "ba ba ba ba baaaa" real fast and low with his guitar ticking like a tick tock clock in the background in that unmistakable Lindsey sound/way on he can do. This song almost has a Beetles feel to it, a bit acid rock, a bit pop, then the end turns into a Lindsey jam session of the clearest variety.

"Illume 9/11" by Stevie starts off with Lindsey's fantastic acoustic strums then gets layered with his many sounds, you can almost see Mick on the drums keeping this smooth basa nova rhythm, and Stevie weaves in and out all those sounds. John's bass maintains a great dance beat. Ethereal Stevie.

"Thrown Down" starts with Lindsey's muffled rapid guitar with an echo, again, only the way Lindsey can produce that sound, the unmistakable Fleetwood Mac guitar sound that so many try to copy but can't. This song resembles "Gypsy" a bit but it's fresh and new. It's fun just to hear Lindsey's guitar and the different sounds they layer. Stevie, the poet of our era does not fail to deliver. Mick's drum lines bore me on this particular song but it works.

"Miranda" is Buckingham from the long lost years of Buckingham/Nicks, I swear I hear "sunflowers and your face fascinate me" then I hear his music piece as well as "Stephanie" in his guitar. Mick is livelier on this song. It's interesting how Mick's drums can sound like flat cans and I still like it, then he spikes them up into this deep dark mellow depth of sound. You'll enjoy the varied sounds on this especially the "phone" sound of Stevie and Lindsey singing.

Red Rover is classic Lindsey again with his guitar sounding almost like a mandolin, a muffled one, and his voice weaves in and out in that strange way only he knows what he's trying to sound like and the end result is something you like. This song has a very English country side sound to it.

"Say You will" of course again is classic Mac. "Something in you brought out something in me, that I've never been since" Stevie writes and sings in a much missed era of 70's acoustic rock sound.

I will stop here because I don't want to ruin the rest for anyone.

I'm just glad the Mac is still ticking along and that everyone is still writing and singing and creating. I miss Christine, her smooth vocals and keyboards will be missed, but it is fun to see Buckingham/Nicks come full circle in their own special brand of sound they created when they were so young so many years ago, it's still there, very much fresh and new and young.

"Go on save yourself, leave the key here, you love someone else, I shouldn't be here" is the Stevie poem I'll end with.

Customer review - 2003-10-04
- An instant classic in it's own right
This is a truly sensational, seamless album. I've been listening to it (more than I'd like to admit) since it's release date. I must admit at first I jumped ahead to Stevie's tracks. After owning the CD for a while I "got to know" the rest of the album. I was lucky enough to see them in concert this tour (Say You Will) and...what a way to bring this album to life! This is definitely NOT one to review after a single listen. You must listen at length and let it sink in. I now know each track backwards and forwards...
"What's The World Coming To" establishes the present-day Mac. Stevies background vocals are my favorite part. The harmonies are delicious.
"Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" was annoying at first but over time it's grown on me. It starts with a familiar sounding Mac guitar riff and builds to a powerful crescendo. Lindsay's guitar work sounds like something from an earlier time. It builds to something almost psychedelic.
"Illume (9-11)" is an understandable contribution by Stevie considering the fact that she was in N.Y.C. when it happened. She said she was particularly proud of this song and it's easy to see why. The first two tracks on the album seem to feed the ancticipation quenched when Stevie's wonderful, haunting voice fills the room. It starts out sort of quietly and builds and then returns to it's starting point.
"Thrown Down" is a catchy tune about rekindling a love affair. Stevie's vocals sound sensational on this one. Lindsay's harmony is perfect. This is just a great rock-n-roll song.
"Miranda" keeps the spirit of the Tusk album alive. I'm still trying to figure out which star this song is about.
"Red Rover" If you played me 3 notes from this song I could tell you what album it was from. This track is almost like a little break between meatier songs...a mini-intermission if you will.
"Say You Will" Title tracks have to be great, right? The song has the familiar theme of true love and loss and wanting it all back. The instrumental work is light and breezy and dare I say...this would make a great country song! There's something so catchy about this song that you may find yourself singing it or just having it in your head at the oddest times. Once again, Stevie sounds great. This song makes you picture Stevie up there on stage with her tamborine.
"Peacekeeper" Everybody's heard this one on the radio by now. Good strong rock song about fighting for peace and the contradictions that surround it.
"Come" This is a cruel little song. I love the line "think of me sweet darlin' every time you don't come". This proves Lindsay can write songs about heartbreak too. The charging guitars seem to express his anger.
"Smile At You" This one has been hanging around die-hard Stevie circles in demo form for years. This one still gives me goosebumps. The first time I heard it, I said "someone left Stevie for a younger woman!" It's nice to hear her hit high notes again. This is my personal favorite. Sensational. Angry. Honest. Bitter. Good stuff.
"Running Through The Garden" Based on the old story about Rappuccini's daugher, one of my favorites. Listen to the words and figure it out.
"Silver Girl" This song starts out dreamy and sort of floats it's way into the room. Stevie says it's about younger artists like Avaril and maybe Sheryl Crow. Sounds autobiographical to me but that's no surprise. The chorus of this track really grabs you.
"Steal Your Heart Away" The harmony and Mick's bongos make this track seem as it it's coming from Mick's living room in Hawaii.
"Bleed To Love Her" Lindsay's sensational song about elusive love (or an elusive crush) found a home on this album. If it sounds familiar, that's because it's from 1997's "The Dance". It's the only "recycled" song on the album. I don't mind.
"Everybody Finds Out" This one starts out with Stevie's digitally manipulated voice delivering the tone of the song, then she hits you hard in full spectrum with the (other) beginning of the song. It sounds like something from "Tango In The Night" as it makes you want to get up and move or at least drive too fast. Another cruel little song about a woman sleeping with a married man "waiting for the day when everybody finds out".
"Destiny Rules" This song rocks!!! It's all there...Mick's great percussion, Lindsay's awesome guitar work and John's ADDICTIVE bassline all tied together with Stevie's compelling vocals. You'll play this one over and over, I have.
"Say Goodbye" I immediately thought of 60's groups like Simon and Garfunkel and The Byrds when I heard this one. Lindsay is actually restrained. This song is like half of an orange and the next song is the other half...
"Goodbye Baby" Part two of the above song or Stevie's response to Lindsay's song. It's surprisingly sweet. I find myself walking around the house singing the chorus.

For the extra money you get an extra disc with two more songs "Love Minus Zero", a ballad from Lindsay and "Not To Make Believe" a really simple Stevie song. Next are live versions of "Peacekeeper" and "Say You Will". Plop the disc into the computer and you'll see scenes from the making of "Say You Will". Stevie is cute in the clips. You can access these clips from the website but if you have a deadly slow connection like I do it takes forever.

In summary I'd like to say that years from now the following songs will be classics: Thrown Down, Destiny Rules, Say You Will and maybe Peacekeeper. My own personal faves are Destiny Rules and Smile At You. This album is sensational. You can tell they worked on it for two years. If you didn't see them in concert this tour you missed out. If you're a die hard Mac fan you'll miss Christine but you may appreciate the quarted the modern Mac has become. If you love Lindsay, he's way out front. If you love Stevie, this album will be like heroin to you.

Customer review - 2003-04-24
- A great album, even without Christine McVie
I began listening to Fleetwood Mac in an order reversed compared to most. I got hooked on Stevie Nicks back when she released 'Trouble in Shangri-La' in 2001. Since then I've been a huge Nicks fan and in an effort to find more of her music I discovered Fleetwood Mac. I've been a fan ever since I first heard 'The Dance'. That being said, realize this reveiw is coming from the perspective of someone who is a Nicks fan first and a Fleetwood Mac fan second.

The first reason I love this album is because Nicks has some great songs on here. Everybody Finds Out is a great rock song and gets me psyched up no matter how many times I've heard it before. Say You Will is a nice pop song, but I actually think it would have been better sung by Christine McVie. Nicks does a nice job filling in for her though. Illume is a prime example of just how wonderfully cryptic and beautiful Nicks' poetic songs can be. Finally, Running Through the Garden harkens back to some of Nicks' solo work from the 80's, especially from 'The Wild Heart'.

Lindsey Buckingham has some good moments on this album as well, but some of his songs seem to be out of place here. 'Red Rover' and 'Murrow Turning Over In His Grave' are good examples of songs that would have been better on a Buckingham solo project. However, since 'Say You Will' came out of such a project, that doesn't come as a surprise. 'Peacekeeper', however, is a great example that Fleetwood Mac hasn't lost its distinctive sound.

Probably the best part about this album though are the pair of songs at the end. 'Say Goodbye' (sung by Buckingham) and 'Goodbye Baby' (sung by Nicks) are essentially Nicks and Buckingham putting closure on their volatile relationship that spawned some of Fleetwood Mac's most famous songs. Its a very nice way to end the album and it ends on a most satisfying note.

Only big Fleetwood Mac fans should by the 'Enhanced' album. It contains some nice picture extras, and the extra songs are decent. But casual fans may not appreciate these extras to justify the extra cost. The serious fan will very much enjoy the Enhanced version though.

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